Temppu FAQ

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Temppu FAQ

Viesti Kirjoittaja Bomber-Foorumi » Ti Maalis 09, 2004 2:02 pm

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Viesti Kirjoittaja Bomber-Foorumi » Ti Maalis 09, 2004 2:03 pm

Noukittuna Gary Rothwellin niksinurkasta:

http://www.garyrothwell.com/Gary_s_Less ... ppies.html :
Gary Rothwell kirjoitti:How to do stoppies.

The way most people would try to do stoppies is usually around ten miles an hour coming up to a traffic light.

The easiest way to try and learn how to do it. You would be much better off attempting this at about 30 mph on a nice road surface. Depending on what motorcycle you ride can make this a lot easier.

A small light motorcycle may be easier to learn on for some people rather than starting off on a big heavy motorcycle, if this is the case it is all in your head. If the bike you are riding is capable of doing a stoppie then it should not be any harder than trying it on a small bike. I think?

The first thing you need to do is be comfortable and relaxed because it doesn't hurt as much when you fall off ? No really , firstly always wear at least a helmet because if you do fall off you will probably land on it or maybe the bike may land on you ? I know it may look good and cool with no protective gear on and maybe your friends may laugh, "they will laugh a lot more if you do fall and get up yourself rather than them supporting your head while they call for an ambulance! Well that's enough of the preaching I think.

So once again depending on the bike you are riding I will compare a few bikes.

Sport bikes 600 cc. Get your bike up to around 30 mph, grip the tank with your knees, this will work better if you are wearing leather pants or a full race suit, because it will grip the tank a lot better than jeans, so now you are doing 30 mph you are squeezing the tank, pull the front brake in quite hard but progressively. You may think the tire will lock up straight away, this may happen if you do it to aggressively this may take a lot of practice to get it right but if it does lock up you better have fast reaction's to release the brake or you will fall very quickly indeed. Be warned ! .

The rear tire will lift off the floor easier if just before you squeeze the brake you quickly bounce slightly on the seat just enough to take the weight off the rear end. If you did it correctly you should have done it easy and to ride along on your front wheel for a while you will need to have very good brake control. If you think about riding up to a stop sign you don't just pull the brakes in and stop right at the sign you are constantly applying and releasing pressure to the brakes . The same applies to riding on your front wheel, when you feel the front wheel biting hard and hopefully the rear wheel lifting off the floor you will be able to control how high the rear wheel goes with brake control. The more you pull your front brake in the higher the rear will go the more you let it out the lower it will go just like coming up to a stop sign just feel what the bike is doing under you and control it yourself you will feel the wheel rise, ideally you want the rear wheel about 2 feet off the floor. Having it only a foot off the floor will mean you are still having to break really hard and you will still stop really quickly, this is not the right way, having it 2 feet off the floor will make it easier for you and you will travel a lot further at this height. If you got it right Congratulations, something else you should know if you are riding along on the front wheel and you feel the back end of the bike starting to go Sideways if you are traveling too fast release your front brake immediately before it gets out of shape otherwise you'll fall off. when you have mastered this and you think you may be ready for the next level all this entails is having the back wheel higher off the floor and riding along faster than before and obviously you will travel a lot further on your front wheel than before, Just before you come to stop you can try turning the handle bars and landing the bike sideways.

Earlier on I said about trying it on different bikes if you're trying this on an R1, fireblade, etc. the same should apply as above, if you are trying it on anything older or heavier you may have to let a bit of pressure out of the front tire and bounce a little harder on the seat just to get the tire to grip because of the extra weight of the bike you are riding.

Some bikes obviously will not do stoppies because of weight, wheelbase, tires, brakes, etc.

Some people obviously read this and go and try time and time again but will never get it right I am sorry but for you people there is no cure. Some have it some don't !!

For the people who do get it right and the people who don't please remember just ride safe and within your limits do not try to go past them because at the end of the day it might not have been worth it.

Take it easy guys and possibly galls

Gary Rothwell

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Viesti Kirjoittaja Bomber-Foorumi » Ti Maalis 09, 2004 2:08 pm

Lisää Gary Rothwellin sanailua keulimisesta:

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Gary Rothwell kirjoitti:HOW TO DO WHEELIES

The way I will tell you how to do a wheelie and you being able to just go out and do it, and get it right after a while will all depend on how good you are at knowing and feeling what you can do with your bike.

If you ride an R1 - CBR 900 – 1200 Bandit – etc, These types of bikes are the easiest of all for wheelies because they will wheelie off the throttle in first gear without trying hard at all.

There are different way's of doing them.

1: Riding off clutch all the way out doing around 20 – 30 mph shut the throttle then open it and pull on the bars these people usually don't change gear they rev the nuts of it and don't look in control.

2: Some others pull off usually from a traffic light as above and instead of shutting the throttle they just give it more gas and pull on the bars, This is a better way than above but still not right. You do not need to pull on the bars.

3: Others pull off and then pull the clutch in and out quickly " Slipping the clutch " This is only needed if your bike will not lift just off the throttle. Bikes " some 600s maybe some 750s, I say some because I have ridden the R6 Yamaha and new GSXR 750 and these will lift just from opening it up in first gear and letting the engine do the rest, But it will be harder than on the R1 etc as these have more torque " low down power " than the smaller bikes.

The way I do a wheelie on an R1, CBR900, 1200 Bandit etc is.
First gear, pull away and let the clutch all the way out but try to keep two fingers on the lever, " Some people may feel better with more or less fingers on the lever some may not use the clutch at all. Use what you feel most comfortable with" This is if you want to progress and start changing gear and if you do you will do it all in this little one two step. So you have pulled away clutch out and two fingers on the clutch lever all in one go open the throttle fast enough and wide enough and the bike should pull away really quickly and if you are riding an R1 this should start to wheelie at about 6-7000 RPM and it will literally jump up very fast so be carefull not to let it go too high too quickly, The Bandit will be the same but the Blade may start to come up around 7000 to 8000rpm and will not wheelie as quickly as the other two. Anyway back to the wheelie. When it comes up you need to change to 2nd gear As it comes off the floor. Wait until it is say 2 feet off the ground, do not try and blip the throttle a few times in first gear this is too aggressive the bike will be a lot easier to control in 2nd gear, and you should be able to ride it for a lot further than you could have done if you stuck to first gear. Now you are up in second try to keep the throttle as smooth as possible while you are doing the wheelie try not to keep blipping it, instead try to roll it on and off slowly but to do this the bike will need to be up very high near the balance point where you will only need to give it very small amounts of throttle. You will need a lot of practice before you can wheelie this good but if you try hard enough and think about what you and the bike are doing.. You should get the feel for it soon enough. Remember to try and look where you are going when you are on one wheel, try to look either side of the bike or just make sure you are not going to hit something that you can not see !

When you are getting to the end of second gear instead of letting the bike rev it's nuts off and hitting the limiter then it will hit the floor quite hard and can easily burst fork seals. All you have to do is change gear again into 3rd . Again most people who can already change gear do it by changing as fast as they can and sometimes it will stay up and they will ride it through 3rd as well. To make it that little bit easier just before you change to 3rd give it a little extra blip on the throttle this will help the bike stay up easier because that change from 2nd to 3rd may be fast but the bike will start to come down and you will have to give it more gas and if you have not got the wheelie high enough it will go down. So try to blip it quickly as I said and this will help a lot when you get it right.

600-750cc Bike's

This is nearly the same as with the other bikes exept you will probably need to use the clutch more to get it up. I said earlier on that some 600s will wheelie off the power without slipping the clutch at all, I know the R6 Yamaha will and I believe the new CBR 600 will also. The other new 600s should do the same but I have not ridden these. The new 750s will do the same but older bikes may not.

So here we go again the only diffrence is the use of the clutch and more balance to keep it up for longer as you will not have the torque or power as the R1s e.t.c.

When you pull off you should try and notice when your bike gives the most power but not top end power when it is running out of rev's. Halfway through the rev range you should feel this. Maybe 5 - 7000 rpm when it gets to this you will need to slip the clutch but very lightly. What I mean is do not open the throttle get to 5-6000 revs and pull the clutch all the way to the bars and whack it back out again. That is not what I meant, when it does reach 5-6000 just pull in the clutch lever enough so you hear the engine go to 7-7500 rpm and let it back out quickly but smoothly. The rpm may differ on what bike you are riding but the rest is the same. Some people may like to whack the clutch in and out in 2nd gear to get it up. My way is safer and will not hurt the bike as much. To change from 1st to 2nd this is the same as the bigger bikes but is a little harder with less power.

If you get this far the rest is history you will be able to get 4th 5th and maybe even 6th if your bike has six gears. Always get the bars as straight as possible when it does come down and hold them as tight as you can to avoid a tank slapper.

For people who think this is all too much to remember I will put it as short as I can.

Pull away,clutch all the way out, give it a lot of throttle and it WILL wheelie, When it does change gear, don't try at all to keep it in first for a bit just change gear straight away when it first comes up to 2nd gear then get it higher and keep it up longer with easy smooth throttle actions ride it through 2nd and when you feel it needs another gear give it the little extra blip and go for 3rd as quickly as you can, the same for the rest of the gears.

Enjoy and be safe.


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